Comments on: In Defence of Li Jia Wei and our Proud National Heroes

By: josephine_ee

josephine_ee — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 08:09:30 +0000

Fact no: 1- Most sportmen/women would like to end up in the arena of presitigious tournaments llike Olympics, World Cup, Thomas Cup, ……..
and are willing to carry the flags of their sponsers.

Fact no: 2- A win in this tournament represents first and foremost, a personal win which is why they fought ‘tooth and nail’ for the top spot.
Their sponsers win and glory is just incidental.

Fact no: 3 Nobody can change history and it will be recorded as Singapore is the first country……….

If you want to change the facts, produce another Tan Howe Liang. If we keep on harping on this subject, we may hurt many more people.

By: Gutai

Gutai — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:30:08 +0000

“在外‘飘’了这么多年，是时候为家乡做点什么了。”李万祥说，“新赛季摘牌大会结束后，北京队主动联系了佳薇。双方很快达成了协议。我们全家都很高兴。”虽然是以外援身份加盟，但在李万祥眼里，这是女儿对“娘家”的回报，“为北京队打球，待遇什么的都不重要。”

http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/04/12/新加坡国手回北京队娘家/

By: your mama

your mama — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:54:58 +0000

who really cares??????????????????????????????????????????

By: Ah Tiong

Ah Tiong — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:18:02 +0000

We normally say, ‘I’m a Chinese from Singapore, and definitely not ‘born in Beijing, a China national’. Anyway, I’m glad she has given the excuse of going back to studies to go back to Beijing, as I think she is pretty satisfied with her monetary gains she has made in S’pore. LJW is really an economic opportunitist. I hope Feng TW will stay, and have made S’pore her home. We need more of Feng than Li.

By: cmc

cmc — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:02:11 +0000

Oh for god’s sakes. Why do people insist on making judgements on people they barely even know.

So now I can say that JS is a person who has zero tolerance and a propensity for making shallow judgements based on the one paragraph JS wrote? Truth is, I can’t say that in all honesty because I don’t know JS as a person. I based all of my impression of this person on one paragraph.

I don’t expect or demand loyalty. That is up to that person. And I’m in no position to judge whether or not these girls are loyal or not based on press reports because trust me, the press isn’t always that accurate.

I know Singaporeans born and breed in Singapore who have next to no loyalty for this country. Being born in a particular place does not guarantee loyalty. Just as not being born in a particular place does not necessarily mean disloyalty.

And seriously, zhong guo ren and hua ren are often used interchangeably. Even I sometimes lapse into saying I’m a zhong guo ren because I lived overseas for several years for a while and while I know the difference, I often forget. There is technically NO DIFFERENCE between zhong guo ren and hua ren if you are talking about ethnicity, i.e. it’s techinically not wrong to use either term to refer to ethnicity. The term zhong guo ren is still currently being used to refer to ethnicity. It’s only in the last few years that this term has become less popular as people not of Chinese Nationality sought to either distance themselves or differentiate themselves from being from China the country. Sometimes, people in China would say they are zhong guo ren min as opposed to zhong guo ren to differentiate between nationality and ethnicity.

Also, given that Li Jiawei was giving an interview to CCTV, it is very possible that she used zhong guo ren to refer to ethnicity because Mainland Chinese will understand that to mean ethnicity. The term hua ren to refer to ethnicity in China, as far as I tell, is far less common than zhong guo ren. Hua ren is also, if I’m not wrong, not often used to refer to ethnicity in Hong Kong too where I think they use Tong Yan (ie Tang Ren) to refer to their roots in China.

I really don’t understand what the fuss is. We seem to be the only country that is soooo bothered by this whole loyalty thing. What’s with Singaporeans? What’s with all this bitterness and intolerance disguised as patriotism. It’s jingoism and it’s dangerous. Do Singaporeans have this thinly disguised sense of inferiority that they can’t believe that someone could actually find something worthwhile to stay in Singapore for other than money?

By: Priss

Priss — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:27:17 +0000

The clip can be found here http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=426895254

By: jermaine

jermaine — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:51:58 +0000

may i knw where you see the clip of li jia wei and any clips available for feng tian wei? thnks.

By: IrCTP

IrCTP — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:47:16 +0000

deadpris: Thank you for putting the record straight.

By: JS

JS — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:25:43 +0000

She has been living in Singapore for so many years, she should know the difference between using zhong-guo-ren and hua-ren by now. She misses her home, she is a hired-gun for Singapore. Thus, don’t expect any loyalty from her because Singapore literally bought the medal (coach and players) from China. To people like her, Singapore is “I pay you money, you get me medals” … would you in her shoes think of yourself as part of your bosses’ family, just ask the foreign maids if they feel Singaporean?

By: cmc

cmc — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:32:22 +0000

“Indeed! If you want to say you’re a chinese (race), and not chinese (nationality), you wouldn’t be saying you are a zhong-guo-ren, but hua-ren.”

In Singapore, it is customary to say that you are “hua ren” when you mean that your ethnicity is Chinese. However, if you’ve met enough ethnic Chinese people who did not learn their Mandarin in Singapore, you’ll know that “hua ren” and “zhong guo ren” can be used interchangeably. If fact, some don’t even use the term “hua ren” at all when they talk about their ethnicity, they simply say “zhong guo ren” even if they no longer hold China citizenship.

Since Li Jiawei was born in China and learnt her Mandarin in China, it is only understandable that she would use the term “zhong guo ren” to mean ethnic Chinese.

I think people are making too much out of this.