http://www.56.com/u78/v_NDE2MzQ3NjQ.html

forget about what li said in the video, to me, i see li as someone who sees herself as singaporean, but as still has some feelings for china. like me, my mother is a malaysian and i go back to malaysia often, im guessing that li feels the same way to. besides, she did tell the newspaper that : 我觉得虽然自己是一个从中国来的人，可是我能有今天那么好的成绩是因为有了新加坡

if all of that doesn’t tell you that she’s a singaporean, i don’t know what will. the tears after li lost to guo and feng lost to zhang already allows idiots to know that they want to win. go ahead and scream ‘ ITS FOR THE MONEY ! ‘ when you know that the are already rich enough to go on shopping sprees whenever they wish, it just shows how shallow and stupid you are to judge people just because they were not born in the country that they represent

did they not work hard on it? they did great.

so why leaving so many bad comments on them? if you think it’s nothing glory abt to earn spore an olympic medal, then try it urself! u will then know how many hardships they need to go thru just to get tat medal.

everyone have their own role in this whole world and in their own life. just like anyone of us who work for money and hope to climb as high as possible and get management’s recognisation. wat’s wrong with that?

is it wrong to give them ‘bonus’ if they won a medal? if it is, then tell ur boss tat from now onwards, u will stop receiving any bonus. tell ur boss tat u will not collecting any commission if u have clinched a deal as it’s ur job.

if you really disagree with the incentives that they are receiving, or unhappy that they are sporean, complain to the government directly. no point attacking the innocents.

I accept them as my fellow countryman and am proud that they have helped to win our small country a medal. I admire their perseverance, determination and dedication because it is those very qualities any top athlete needs in order to win a prize that difficult to win.

What I do not admire are people who make baseless assumptions and personal attacks. I am NOT a self-delusional individual who panders to the incumbent power. I am a rational human being who came to the decision to accept all immigrants, both good and bad, as my fellow countryman. As long as they have accepted Singapore citizenship, they are my compatriots. It’s a very logical conclusion since there is no such thing as a Singaporean ethnicity, it’s citizenship that makes us Singaporean. Likewise, there is also no such thing as American ethnicity, it is citizenship that makes them American. Even if you’re born in Singapore, you may not become a Singaporean because of the nationality laws of this land. Being born in Singapore does not automatically mean that you’ll become a Singaporean, it’s not entirely a birthright because it isn’t an ethnicity issue which cannot be controlled by any laws, it is a nationality issue.

Being born in Singapore doesn’t make you loyal either. That is a choice. And not being born in Singapore doesn’t necessarily mean that you cannot chose to love Singapore and be loyal to it. That, too, is a choice.

Basically, I like the current government. It has it’s flaws but I see nothing wrong with living in a land that is stable and safe. Yes, I help the incumbent stay in power but it’s not self-delusion, it’s a rational decision that I made. My family and I live a good life in Singapore and I don’t see this government as being particularly bad. There are far worst governments in this world and certainly far worst countries to live in.

Thing is Japalang, I could easily say the same things about you. You’re self-delusional too. You can’t accept the fact that immigration is a part of living in this world. In the very beginning, man were mostly nomads anyway. The Inuits in Alaska are said to have crossed the Bering Straits from Asia long before it became impossible to walk across the straits. It is you who can’t accept that that this country is built by immigrants. Unless your ancestors were already on this island before the British came, then you, like most of us, are a child of immigrants and our ancestors came to this very land to seek their fortunes. Nope, they didn’t come with any noble purpose. They didn’t come here simply to love a little island. They didn’t come here to set up a home. They came here to work and after that they intended to go back to their homeland and their families. But in the end they did stay and some did come to love Singapore, others stayed because they had no choice but they stayed and that’s why there is such a nationality as Singaporean.

You know what I am beginning to think? I am beginning to think that all those who cry foul about the National Table Tennis players are actually deeply insecure people who have a chip on their shoulder. They think that their citizenship is a birthright and that with this birthright should come rights, i.e. handouts. Their intolerance and bitterness stems from the fact that deep down, they just don’t want to work for anything at all. They rather the government just give them money. Why should the government care about immigrants? They come and take our jobs, even if those jobs are jobs we don’t care to do or jobs that we aren’t skilled enough to do, we’re still pissed. Why should the government care about immigrants? Even though we have an ageing population and soon the young will have to work harder to support the old if the population isn’t replenished through a good immigration policy. Why should we care about immigrants and foreign talent? They are all disgusting money grubbers. Even though the majority of these immigrants work hard, pay taxes and contribute to our GDP. Why should I like immigrants? They talk loudly and will grab anything. Even though most of rudest people I’ve met in Singapore are Singaporeans.

While clearly the ends should not always justify the means, I really don’t see what is sooooo morally wrong about this at all. They are immigrants who made good. What’s so morally wrong about that? Every year many people are granted citizenship, do you go and question their intentions?

Gee, you do know that people have been migrating for centuries, right? Would anyone go to any land if they did not find something out there for them, whether it is money, freedom, safety, opportunity, curiosity etc. Most people who seek their fortunes in far away lands do it for a myriad of reasons but it’s always because there is something to gain.

A pro-athletes sport is his job. He gets paid to do it. And if he doesn’t spend his time training, he would not only be a poor sportsmen, he would also be a poor employee.

I don’t see that these sportsmen are any different from most of us working folk. If there was no money in my job, why in God’s name would I bother to spend most of my week working?

There is a difference between a pro-athlete and some guy who just plays his tennis seriously every weekend. For a pro-athlete, his job is his livelihood. He depends on it for his daily expenses and for his future. The guy who plays his tennis seriously every weekend has the luxury of playing it for passion and for fun. Pro-athletes do not have that choice. On days when they feel frustrated and tired and hate the sport that they have chosen to stake their futures on, they still have to shrug it off and go on. It’s not that much different from most working people who wake up with the Monday blues or who drag their feet to their office each morning.

If you have no problem with people who work for money, promotion and fame, you shouldn’t have a problem with pro-athletes who work for money, promotion and fame.

In the case of these table-tennis girls, what motivated them to come to Singapore may actually not necessarily be just simply money. It is extremely difficult to enter the top ranks of table tennis in China. Just look at the quality of Zhang Yining, Guo Yue and Wang Nan. The top 5 women’s players were born in China and play for China. What motivated many of the other China born table tennis players to leave China and seek their fortunes in Singapore, Korea, Hong Kong, Austra, US, Australia, Canada, Dominican Republic etc is more likely opportunity, not simply money. In China, it is unlikely that they could ever represent the country. For someone like Feng Tianwei, who’s fervent dream was to win an Olympic medal for her deceased father, she would have to leave China if she wanted to have any hope at all of fulfilling that dream. If any of them hoped to make table-tennis their career they would have to leave China.

So unlike you, I do not pity the foreign talent who come play for Singapore. I do not think that playing in Singapore has stunted their growth. It would seem that playing in Singapore has given them opportunities that they may not necessarily have been offered if they had stayed in the land of their birth.

I don’t see anything wrong with trying to fulfil one’s dream, I don’t see anything wrong with them trying to make an honest living. They work very hard at their jobs and they should be rewarded for it. Make no mistake, winning a medal at the Olympics is a very big deal for athletes. While with that medal often come financial gain, that medal also often means more than just money to an athlete and yes, that includes pro-athletes who play for a living.

If there is no money to be made, no FT will ever come to this tiny land.

When there is no money for winning in the sports, will they spend all their time playing their games?

patriot